Looking at Ighoefe’s page on the Sports Reference website to see if there is any justification for the bashing you guys keep laying on this kid. Unless its stats are in error I do not get your criticism. I may add that unless I was not paying attention carefully enough, I think some of your commentary on Ighoefe has been just short of hyperbole.
After the second darn game of the season one of you actually posed to Ewing the question of Ighoefe’s worthiness based on his having the worst plus-minus results of the Navy game. That was not only a disservice to Ighoefe (that stat did not tell the entire picture of his performance) it came across as a direct attack on Ewing’s intelligence as if he wasn’t properly gauging the worthiness of his player as well as you.
On your podcast you openly wished for Q to stay out of foul trouble for the very purpose of Ighoefe not getting as much playing time. A very eye-catching take considering how you are simultaneously craving reduction of minutes of the starters in general in order for other dudes to get court time.
Now you are salivating at the mouth over the idea of a small ball lineup, but only when Wahab is off the floor. This too keeps Ighoefe on the bench as much as possible.
It is as if the root of what ails the team, and what gnaws at you the most, are minutes given to Ighoefe.
I think more context us needed. Take the whole turnover rate numbers. According to Sports Reference Ighoefe has committed four turnovers in three games. Even in non-starter’s minutes that is not awful for a young big. Furthermore it is not that terrible when you consider Iggy has only turned it over once in his last two games. Three of his season’s four turnovers came in game one when admittedly he did look all sorts of lost. Those Turnovers weren’t the throwing bad passes or dribbling off the feet variety. They were the picking up a charge on a post move or setting an illegal screen variety.
From my vantage point he looked too wound up in that season opener but he has begun to settle down. He picked up zero fouls and turnovers in game 2. His initial non-dunk shot attempts were awful flicks that did not even touch the rim while his most recent ones were either close misses or made baskets.
The fouling issue is still a concern but he is a key contributor on the boards and he is also the best in-the-paint defender on the team. I do not get the rush to throw him overboard.
- The third highest turnover % on the team (27.6%)
- A -0.3 Box Plus/Minus (Box score estimate of points per 100 possessions the player contributed above a league average player) which is second to last on the team.
- A -8.8 Net Rating
- Leads the team in personal fouls per 100 possessions (11.0)
As I've stated before, Tim has impressive physical tools and has a sky-high ceiling. But in terms of understanding the finer details of the game, he is still struggling in that area, and it is hurting the team, as the above numbers show. I think that a full offseason spent with the team would have helped him greatly, and he is playing catch-up as a result, which I do not fault him for, it's just a matter of fact. I am hopeful that he can improve rapidly, but currently he has not shown he is ready to take on a bigger role in his sophomore season.
I give you the fouls argument. Not seeing eye-to-eye with you on the rest based on reasons I already put forth. And the notion he is hurting the team because of the stats you are clinging too is a bit much. He hasn't gotten into any comfort groove on offense and that is complicated by his often being paired with other guys in the first three games who couldn't score either. This doesn't lead to lofty showings in the Plus-Minus field. But that short sample size is just that....short sample size. It doesn't mean he is not ready to contribute greatly on the court this season. . Also imo he didn't hurt the team in the two middle games (the losses). He guarded and rebounded well and was much more often than not in the right position he needed to be when on the court. So I guess we have a Mexican standoff on this issue. We'll see if there is an actual entire season to come to a final verdict. Happy holidays.
Oh, failed to remember to include that of the eight Hoyas getting the bulk of the minutes Ighoefe leads the team in defensive efficiency/the defensive rating. Which is why I find myself exasperated by the idea he is hurting the team.
If you’re going to say I’m using a small sample size, then you may want to re-think highlighting his DRTG and total # of turnovers in limited minutes, which are even more affected by a small sample size then the more percentage-based stats I provided. Have a good night.
Looking at Ighoefe’s page on the Sports Reference website to see if there is any justification for the bashing you guys keep laying on this kid. Unless its stats are in error I do not get your criticism. I may add that unless I was not paying attention carefully enough, I think some of your commentary on Ighoefe has been just short of hyperbole.
After the second darn game of the season one of you actually posed to Ewing the question of Ighoefe’s worthiness based on his having the worst plus-minus results of the Navy game. That was not only a disservice to Ighoefe (that stat did not tell the entire picture of his performance) it came across as a direct attack on Ewing’s intelligence as if he wasn’t properly gauging the worthiness of his player as well as you.
On your podcast you openly wished for Q to stay out of foul trouble for the very purpose of Ighoefe not getting as much playing time. A very eye-catching take considering how you are simultaneously craving reduction of minutes of the starters in general in order for other dudes to get court time.
Now you are salivating at the mouth over the idea of a small ball lineup, but only when Wahab is off the floor. This too keeps Ighoefe on the bench as much as possible.
It is as if the root of what ails the team, and what gnaws at you the most, are minutes given to Ighoefe.
I think more context us needed. Take the whole turnover rate numbers. According to Sports Reference Ighoefe has committed four turnovers in three games. Even in non-starter’s minutes that is not awful for a young big. Furthermore it is not that terrible when you consider Iggy has only turned it over once in his last two games. Three of his season’s four turnovers came in game one when admittedly he did look all sorts of lost. Those Turnovers weren’t the throwing bad passes or dribbling off the feet variety. They were the picking up a charge on a post move or setting an illegal screen variety.
From my vantage point he looked too wound up in that season opener but he has begun to settle down. He picked up zero fouls and turnovers in game 2. His initial non-dunk shot attempts were awful flicks that did not even touch the rim while his most recent ones were either close misses or made baskets.
The fouling issue is still a concern but he is a key contributor on the boards and he is also the best in-the-paint defender on the team. I do not get the rush to throw him overboard.
Hi HeartOfZo,
Tim has:
- The third highest turnover % on the team (27.6%)
- A -0.3 Box Plus/Minus (Box score estimate of points per 100 possessions the player contributed above a league average player) which is second to last on the team.
- A -8.8 Net Rating
- Leads the team in personal fouls per 100 possessions (11.0)
As I've stated before, Tim has impressive physical tools and has a sky-high ceiling. But in terms of understanding the finer details of the game, he is still struggling in that area, and it is hurting the team, as the above numbers show. I think that a full offseason spent with the team would have helped him greatly, and he is playing catch-up as a result, which I do not fault him for, it's just a matter of fact. I am hopeful that he can improve rapidly, but currently he has not shown he is ready to take on a bigger role in his sophomore season.
I give you the fouls argument. Not seeing eye-to-eye with you on the rest based on reasons I already put forth. And the notion he is hurting the team because of the stats you are clinging too is a bit much. He hasn't gotten into any comfort groove on offense and that is complicated by his often being paired with other guys in the first three games who couldn't score either. This doesn't lead to lofty showings in the Plus-Minus field. But that short sample size is just that....short sample size. It doesn't mean he is not ready to contribute greatly on the court this season. . Also imo he didn't hurt the team in the two middle games (the losses). He guarded and rebounded well and was much more often than not in the right position he needed to be when on the court. So I guess we have a Mexican standoff on this issue. We'll see if there is an actual entire season to come to a final verdict. Happy holidays.
Oh, failed to remember to include that of the eight Hoyas getting the bulk of the minutes Ighoefe leads the team in defensive efficiency/the defensive rating. Which is why I find myself exasperated by the idea he is hurting the team.
If you’re going to say I’m using a small sample size, then you may want to re-think highlighting his DRTG and total # of turnovers in limited minutes, which are even more affected by a small sample size then the more percentage-based stats I provided. Have a good night.